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[maverick]

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[maverick]

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Re: Skyblade adrenaline same as BP (limeni)?

Beitragvon January Gutjahr » 29 October 2008 22:36
Hi colleagues ,

I am precisely with this subject well versed ( must be ), I would like to contribute something to the truth.

Is always fascinating , as discussed above , these rods but how much they love and how many they condemn (which are probably the most that the rods do not want or can afford ) . And most importantly, how many conjectures and half-truths in circulation ...... Funny.

so :

1.)
BP and adrenaline (or sniper) are absolutely different blanks. BP blanks that are available again since last year are from the original manufacturer - made ​​" Hastings Graphite USA" . The adrenaline - blanks are (now ) made ​​by another company . , Whose chief is the former chief designer of G -USA. This has become self-employed . The importer of adrenaline blanks can be in the new manufacturers produce , since the processing of the blanks Graphite USA is no longer good in parts . Poor finishes, crooked Blank , jiggling connectors are common. The adrenaline blanks , however, are all in absolute top quality ! However, just more expensive.

2.) The rod actions of BP and adrenaline are different. The BP has an extreme tip action , this is also where the specified casting weight of 5-100 gram of ( but I would rather give the rod 20-80 grams) . The adrenaline has a much harder ( and thicker ) peak , characterized the action is more semi-parabolic . Litter weight I would estimate with 40-90 grams. Although I have really caught with two rods from perch to Waller everything. Since both blanks are very fast and sensitive, this works really well !

3.) Ultra Rugged both Blanks - since both were constructed with the DHX ( double helix process ) - with BP (but I do not have the new Libo me racku! Blank in use , but a genuine pro - indicator plate whip ) I caught catfish to 212cm with the adrenaline Sniper Waller to 234cm . The drill is on my website and see at myvideo.de (Jan Gutjahr ..... enter a search term) The drill was also on the fish & fishing DVD.

Hope I could help a little . :!:

Dalje:
I do not think there is still the old original blanks somewhere. There are just the new edition , which is now commonly found in Ebay.

These blanks are also very sturdy , have designed a buddy a rod - but they are not very clean finish, the connector is shaking frequently , and the tip is ne corner thinner than the old original blanks. They had 2.7-2.8MM diameter , the new generation has sometimes only 2.5mm . As a result, the tip is too soft, just a throaty first glance and the jigging heavier baits that is bad. The adrenaline of Cebbra have 2.8mm .

The main difference between BP and Adrenaline is as I wrote in the action of the rod . The Adrenaline is in the top overall harder by the action goes more towards Semiparabolic and BP has a " fast taper action " ( tip action " ).

[Ive]

Šteta što su admini na varaličaru zaustavili..baš je bilo dobro 

[maverick]

Znaš da i meni malo fali ta prepiska 

[ossa]

Sto se mene tice voleo bih da vidim adrenalin zbog te navedene akcije.
Ali eto vidite prepisku oko cts revo salt musicaraca. Svaka serija im je drugacija, koliko sam procitao. Cudi me samo da omiljeni brend sa ovih prostora nije evoluirao u smislu da naprave blankove koji ne pucaju onoliko. Ili ih boli bash zbog profita.
Evo sta je neba napisao na varalicaru ako niste procitali. A on se dosta srece sa mg serviserima pa cuje razne stvari koje su nama nedostupne.

"cts svake godine redizajnira blankove vise puta i unapredjuje, a na vama je da odaberete dizajn koji vam se najvise dopada"

[rj]

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Re: Skyblade adrenaline same as BP (limeni)?

Beitragvon January Gutjahr » 29 October 2008 22:36
Hi colleagues ,

I am precisely with this subject well versed ( must be ), I would like to contribute something to the truth.

Is always fascinating , as discussed above , these rods but how much they love and how many they condemn (which are probably the most that the rods do not want or can afford ) . And most importantly, how many conjectures and half-truths in circulation ...... Funny.

so :

1.)
BP and adrenaline (or sniper) are absolutely different blanks. BP blanks that are available again since last year are from the original manufacturer - made ​​" Hastings Graphite USA" . The adrenaline - blanks are (now ) made ​​by another company . , Whose chief is the former chief designer of G -USA. This has become self-employed . The importer of adrenaline blanks can be in the new manufacturers produce , since the processing of the blanks Graphite USA is no longer good in parts . Poor finishes, crooked Blank , jiggling connectors are common. The adrenaline blanks , however, are all in absolute top quality ! However, just more expensive.

2.) The rod actions of BP and adrenaline are different. The BP has an extreme tip action , this is also where the specified casting weight of 5-100 gram of ( but I would rather give the rod 20-80 grams) . The adrenaline has a much harder ( and thicker ) peak , characterized the action is more semi-parabolic . Litter weight I would estimate with 40-90 grams. Although I have really caught with two rods from perch to Waller everything. Since both blanks are very fast and sensitive, this works really well !

3.) Ultra Rugged both Blanks - since both were constructed with the DHX ( double helix process ) - with BP (but I do not have the new Libo me racku! Blank in use , but a genuine pro - indicator plate whip ) I caught catfish to 212cm with the adrenaline Sniper Waller to 234cm . The drill is on my website and see at myvideo.de (Jan Gutjahr ..... enter a search term) The drill was also on the fish & fishing DVD.

Hope I could help a little . :!:

Dalje:
I do not think there is still the old original blanks somewhere. There are just the new edition , which is now commonly found in Ebay.

These blanks are also very sturdy , have designed a buddy a rod - but they are not very clean finish, the connector is shaking frequently , and the tip is ne corner thinner than the old original blanks. They had 2.7-2.8MM diameter , the new generation has sometimes only 2.5mm . As a result, the tip is too soft, just a throaty first glance and the jigging heavier baits that is bad. The adrenaline of Cebbra have 2.8mm .

The main difference between BP and Adrenaline is as I wrote in the action of the rod . The Adrenaline is in the top overall harder by the action goes more towards Semiparabolic and BP has a " fast taper action " ( tip action " ).

još kad bi neko ovo preveo 

[raso]

Počeo sam malo prevoditi, ali mi se više ne da pa sam iskoristi google prevoditelja, ali kog zanima će skužiti.

Re: Skyblade i Adrenalin su isti blankovi  kao i BP (Limeni)?

Beitragvon  Gutjahr »29. listopad 2008 22:36
Bok kolege,

Malo sam upućen i da nešto kažem.

Uvijek je fascinantno, kolika se vodi rasprava o ovim blankovima, nekima se sviđaju nekima ne (vjerojatno onima koji ih si ne mogu priuštiti). I ono najvažnije najvažnije, puno je nagađanja i poluistine u svemu ...... Funny.

tako da:

1)
BP i Adrenalina (ili Snniper) su apsolutno različiti blankovi. BP blankovi, koje su ponovno od prošle godine u ponudi dolaze od originalnog proizvođača -  "Hastings Grafit USA".Adrenalina - proizvodi drugi proizvođač. Čija glavni je glavni dizajner bivši projektant  G -USA. .Uvoznik adrenalina praznine mogu biti u novoj proizvođači proizvode, budući da obrada praznine Grafit SAD više nije dobro u dijelovima. Loše završi, iskrivio prazan, jiggling konektori su česte. Adrenalin praznine, međutim, svi su u apsolutnom vrhunske kvalitete! Međutim, samo skuplji.

2.) U štap akcije BP i adrenalina su različiti.BP ima izuzetnu savjet akciju, to je također mjesto gdje je navedeno casting težina 5-100 grama (ali ja bih radije dati poluge 20-80 grama).Adrenalin je mnogo teže (i deblji) vrhunac, karakterizira akcija je više polu-paraboličnim. Nosila težina bih procijeniti sa 40-90 grama. Iako sam stvarno uhvaćen s dvije šipke od smuđa u Waller svemu. Budući da su oba praznine vrlo brzo i osjetljiva, to radi jako dobro!

3.) Ultra Čvrst i Blanks - jer kako su izgrađene s DHX (double helix proces) - s BP (ali nemam novi Libo me racku Blank u uporabi, ali pravi profesionalac - indikator ploča bič) sam uhvatio som na 212cm s adrenalina snajper Waller do 234cm.Drill je na mojoj web stranici i vidjeti na myvideo.de (Jan Gutjahr ..... unesite traženi pojam) svrdlo i na ribe i ribarskog DVD.

Nadam se da sam mogao pomoći malo. :!:

dalje:
Ne mislim da postoji još stari izvorni praznine negdje. Postoji samo novo izdanje, koje je sada uobičajeno nalaze u eBay.

Te praznine su također vrlo čvrst, su dizajnirani Buddy štap - ali oni nisu vrlo čist finiš, priključak se trese često, a savjet je NE kutak tanji od starih izvornih praznine. Imali 2.7-2.8MM promjer, nova generacija ima ponekad samo 2.5mm. Kao rezultat toga, tip je previše mekana, samo grlen prvi pogled i jigging teže mamci što je loše.Adrenalin Cebbra imaju 2.8mm.

Glavna razlika između BP i adrenalina je kao što sam pisao u akciji šipke.Adrenalin je u vrhu u ukupnom poretku teže djelovanjem ide više prema Semiparabolic i BP ima "brzo Kruzni akciju" (tip akcije ").

[Jožef1]

Za trud  a gooegle-prevoditelj zakon   

[Ive]

(ali nemam novi Libo me racku Blank u uporabi, ali pravi profesionalac - indikator ploča bič)   

[rj]

dakle i Jan Gutjahr tvrdi isto što i ja ...hvala mu

[mlb]

Čim sam pogledao šta je rekao za tih 5-100 odma sam pomislio sad će rj reći "a šta sam ja rekao" 

[rj]

vidi posle 30 +god varaličarenja normalno je da imam "osjećaj" u ruci ...netreba mi vaga niti šubler da osjetim razliku između 2 štapa ....
probaj mali CD 32 gr skratit u vrhu za 2cm dobiješ sasvim drugi štap ...čudno ali istinito
što se tiće razlike između starog i novog limenog razlika nije velika ali postoji i nikako nisu "isti" štapovi ...meni osobno now blank više leži

[mlb]

meni se činilo da je tako kad sam probao greysikin ali ja sam još zelen i ko bi mene poslušao! da neidem puno u off skratio sam cdbr 15-50 za tih par centi i stoji da je sad to potpuno drukčiji štap!

[rj]

greysikin štap je dobar štap tu nema priće samo se naljuti kad mu kažem da to nije limeni 

[mlb]

Znaš da i meni malo fali ta prepiska 

Malo je forum izgubio na oštrini od kad nema tih rasprava , a bogami i one daiwa-shimano